Hi Everybody,I have just received an Email about Platinum Notes 3 being released. It got me somehow curious about the program.I checked out the webpage and only found claims like 'It will make your songs acoustically perfect'.Of course I want the best sounding files but I am not sure if it is worth the money.I am kind of scared it will all sound like funkymixes with enhanced basslines and obnoxious snares/hi hats.Will it furthermore corrupt Whitelabel files?What are your experiences?Thanks for the input!
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I just grabbed a copy to run as a trial version, still testing. I tried a couple of tracks though.Ida Corr vs Fedde Le Grande (Flamemakers Remix)It applied a gain reduction, fixed 650 clipped peaks and adjusted the pitch at 13centsWith the waveforms above eachother in ableton the clipped peaks definitely standout as being reduced perfectly.Pitbull- Hotel Room Service (Remix)According to PN it lowered the gain, fixed 12305 clipped peaks, adjusted dynamics and didn't touch the pitch.I'm uploading some cutouts of the test tracks onto soundcloud, in both ones the first part is the original (Record Pool downloads) and then will go to the PN edited version. Originals are available for download.
Quote:So Plat. Notes is meant to be used with already mastered mp3s and not so much to master your own productions, right?It can be used for both. The ability to easily master my own productions was one of the initial reasons that led me to work for Mixed In Key.However, this is not what the default template is designed for. It is a little counter intuitive, but if I were to use PN to master a track for release I would raise the output volume to give it a better chance of competing against other tracks out there.
Platinum Notes uses studio filters to process your files. It corrects pitch, improves volume and makes every file ready to play anywhere - from your iTunes to a festival sound system. We designed it to work with music from Beatport, iTunes and other stores. Even if you buy WAV files, Platinum Notes will improve them.
The version of the track that I would keep in my collection for mixing would be mastered at the level of the default template. Im not really impressed with it, i did a demo with a few files i kept the original files and it created PN files as well. I compared them in quality & previewed them, no fucking difference at all.
It does write keys for all tracks u analyze. Then in serato make sure the key column is checked. From my experience if you set your bpm's in serato it's really no different.
Cool thing is whatever genre you're playing you can search that certain key and all your song files will come up with matching keys. There's a torrent for platinum notes on the net a friend told me. Hey guys.Mixed in Key is awesome and takes mixing to the next level. I used it a few years ago and just downloaded the latest version (it's really fast with multi-core processor support)I'm considering Platinum Notes to normalise my tracks, it looks like a decent, worthwhile DJ tool. Most of my tracks are too loud, so I usually just tweak the quieter ones in the mix, but this would make them all uniform. Nice!But am I missing something with this One Idea thing?Doesn't it look shit? Maybe it's a case of personal taste but to me it looks like a bad version of ArKaos.'
Oh it looks really cool'What??The emperors new clothes??Guys, stick with what you do well and leave the stuff you don't to others. The worst thing that I read here was that: if you produce a home-track, PN can master it for you.Please use google and find out a bit more about mastering, PN has nothing to do with this. The purpose of the software is to IMPROVE your bad mp3 sounds, adjusting dynamics,volume, pitch and repairing clipping, if PN understands that it's needed to.I've tested with different sort of files and qualities and for old tunnes, degraded mp3s it works fine, many times it really improve your files.But this price is far more expensive than what it really does, that's calculating these parameters and resetting them to a standard level. That's an interesting use of Platinum Notes that ProMusician mentioned, I hadn't thought of using it for that before but it's a great idea.DJMark is right that time stretching and pitch adjustments that preserve the original tempo can leave audio artifacts, but they it's pretty rare to hear any audible artifacts from PN because the adjustments are so small, plus we use the highest quality pitch adjustment that is out there. If you're still concerned about it though you can turn the pitch correction of or switch it to vinyl style so that the pitch is adjusted by changing the tempo.
It's a DJ tool. Not a producers tool. This is a DJ forum built on the premise of a pretty popular piece of DJ gear. Who gives a $h!t if it's a useful tool for producing or not. I paid the $100. I used PN on ALL my tracks and my library not only sounds GREAT, but it all sounds the same. I don't have to babysit the gains because one track may be low, or play with the highs and lows unless I'm actually playing with them.
Everything sounds correct. I ALWAYS get compliments on the quality of my sound. If you're a serious DJ flip the $100 and use PN to step your game up a notch. If you're a producer go hit a producer's forum up. If you're not making enough cheddar to throw down a Benji in PN maybe it's cause your tracks sound amateur.
Still not convinced. You're basically doing every possible thing on your tracks you shouldn't be doing to get good quality sound out of your files.1.
Unless you're entire collection of tunes is lossless, you're transcoding all your tunes2. You're applying a mastering chain on tracks that are already mastered3. You're applying an.automated. mastering chain on tracks that are already masteredif you have good quality tracks, then something like platinum notes is superfluous at best and a straight up scam at worst. Quote:The worst thing that I read here was that: if you produce a home-track, PN can master it for you.holy shit - don't use a shitty $100 program to master your tunes.
There's a reason mastering engineers go to school for years and adjust mastering process to every tune as every mixdown is different.Even then, there are tons more professional and prosumer-quality software mastering programs and plugins you can use that will actually get you a decent mastering result if you know what you're doing. I have run mp3's that sounded like straight garbage through PN and wav's from CD rips.
They all come out sounding the same. And sounding pretty damn good in my opinion. The point I'm trying to make is not that as a producer I use it to master $#!t I produce. The point I'm trying to make is that ad a DJ, after using PN, all of my songs have a good, clean, uniform sound. It helps my sets flow through smoothly. And again, it saves me from having to worry that the song I have cued up to play next is going to sound epicly different than the one playing now and cause a big trainwreck transition.
I like that comfort and security. Quote:Heavy sigh.
I have run mp3's that sounded like straight garbage through PN and wav's from CD rips. They all come out sounding the same. And sounding pretty damn good in my opinion. The point I'm trying to make is not that as a producer I use it to master $#!t I produce. The point I'm trying to make is that ad a DJ, after using PN, all of my songs have a good, clean, uniform sound. It helps my sets flow through smoothly. And again, it saves me from having to worry that the song I have cued up to play next is going to sound epicly different than the one playing now and cause a big trainwreck transition.
I like that comfort and security.So you want to make your wav files sound as bad as your mp3s for the sake of uniformity? Mind boggling. Quote:Heavy sigh. I have run mp3's that sounded like straight garbage through PN and wav's from CD rips. They all come out sounding the same. And sounding pretty damn good in my opinion. The point I'm trying to make is not that as a producer I use it to master $#!t I produce.
The point I'm trying to make is that ad a DJ, after using PN, all of my songs have a good, clean, uniform sound. It helps my sets flow through smoothly. And again, it saves me from having to worry that the song I have cued up to play next is going to sound epicly different than the one playing now and cause a big trainwreck transition.
I like that comfort and security.So you want to make your wav files sound as bad as your mp3s for the sake of uniformity? Mind boggling.Lol I would rather just use good files to start with granted not all files are created equally. If I can't use EQ on the mixer to make the song sonically appear equal then I need a better quality file. Quote:Heavy sigh. I have run mp3's that sounded like straight garbage through PN and wav's from CD rips. They all come out sounding the same.
And sounding pretty damn good in my opinion. The point I'm trying to make is not that as a producer I use it to master $#!t I produce. The point I'm trying to make is that ad a DJ, after using PN, all of my songs have a good, clean, uniform sound. It helps my sets flow through smoothly. And again, it saves me from having to worry that the song I have cued up to play next is going to sound epicly different than the one playing now and cause a big trainwreck transition.
I like that comfort and security.So you want to make your wav files sound as bad as your mp3s for the sake of uniformity? Mind boggling.Lol I would rather just use good files to start with granted not all files are created equally. If I can't use EQ on the mixer to make the song sonically appear equal then I need a better quality fileExactly. Or a better mixer. Quote:Heavy sigh. I have run mp3's that sounded like straight garbage through PN and wav's from CD rips. They all come out sounding the same.
And sounding pretty damn good in my opinion. The point I'm trying to make is not that as a producer I use it to master $#!t I produce. The point I'm trying to make is that ad a DJ, after using PN, all of my songs have a good, clean, uniform sound. It helps my sets flow through smoothly. And again, it saves me from having to worry that the song I have cued up to play next is going to sound epicly different than the one playing now and cause a big trainwreck transition. I like that comfort and security.So you want to make your wav files sound as bad as your mp3s for the sake of uniformity? Mind boggling.Lol I would rather just use good files to start with granted not all files are created equally.
If I can't use EQ on the mixer to make the song sonically appear equal then I need a better quality filethis. Definitely pass on Platinum Notes. You could use your ears and a free copy of Audacity or something, to normalize your tracks or re-EQ them.A friend talked me into getting Platinum Notes a couple of years ago, and if I'm lazy, I might use it on uncompressed recordings of my vinyl rips, but that's about it.As for Mixed In Key's 'Energy Rating', it's a joke. It's giving Poolside a 7 or 8, while my Rebolledo gets a 3 or 4.
I'm also not impressed that users of v5.x are forced to update the software to 5.5 if they want to use the software at all now.Rekordbox does key detection, and it's free. Don't make the same mistakes I did, kids. Quote.it saves me from having to worry that the song I have cued up to play next is going to sound epicly different than the one playing now and cause a big trainwreck transition. I like that comfort and security. Granted not all files are created equally. If I can't use EQ on the mixer to make the song sonically appear equal then I need a better quality fileSometimes I feel like I'm in a forum full of elementary school kids. 'He doesn't do the same thing I do so he's stupid.
Na na na na na na!' I said I don't want to have to jack with gains and eq's and $h!t (unless it's for effect). You choose to risk it and somehow this demonstrates an inferiority in my technique. I'm not mad at you, I'm just entertained by your my dad could beat up your dad style: ).
It's a DJ tool. Not a producers tool. This is a DJ forum built on the premise of a pretty popular piece of DJ gear. Who gives a $h!t if it's a useful tool for producing or not. I paid the $100. I used PN on ALL my tracks and my library not only sounds GREAT, but it all sounds the same.
I don't have to babysit the gains because one track may be low, or play with the highs and lows unless I'm actually playing with them. Everything sounds correct. I ALWAYS get compliments on the quality of my sound. If you're a serious DJ flip the $100 and use PN to step your game up a notch. If you're a producer go hit a producer's forum up.
If you're not making enough cheddar to throw down a Benji in PN maybe it's cause your tracks sound amateur. Quote:Heavy sigh. I have run mp3's that sounded like straight garbage through PN and wav's from CD rips. They all come out sounding the same. And sounding pretty damn good in my opinion.
The point I'm trying to make is not that as a producer I use it to master $#!t I produce. The point I'm trying to make is that ad a DJ, after using PN, all of my songs have a good, clean, uniform sound. It helps my sets flow through smoothly. And again, it saves me from having to worry that the song I have cued up to play next is going to sound epicly different than the one playing now and cause a big trainwreck transition. I like that comfort and security.You should learn how to 'Equalize' the tracks by the mixer. Sounds like you will fxxx up when PN discontinues and then your new tracks sound amateur.
Quote:Sometimes I feel like I'm in a forum full of elementary school kids. 'He doesn't do the same thing I do so he's stupid. Na na na na na na!' I said I don't want to have to jack with gains and eq's and $h!t (unless it's for effect). You choose to risk it and somehow this demonstrates an inferiority in my technique. I'm not mad at you, I'm just entertained by your my dad could beat up your dad style: )ur saying if PN did it, you don't need to mess with EQ for it.wondering what type of mixer ur using.
For one thing, It sounds like this does destructive edits to your files. Problems I forsee:1. All you files managed with this software are now different fundamentally to the originals. Ie the new track you have created is no longer recognised as the same track as is on your album. Can be tricked with id3 tags but it is NOT the same as the original sample track. This will be an issue with itunes match.2.
You are changing your audio files to no longer be what the original artist intended. If you want to eq etc do it on the fly, dont change your track as hell why did the guy who mastered it spend god knows how long doing so. He had time to test it on many speakers and has years of experience in doing so.
If its your own stuff and you cant master etc then fair enough but why fuck with something that a whole team of industry professionals have spent a large amount of time thinking about and trying on different systems.3. $90 is a shit load of money for a normaliser?
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